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Sunday, June 22, 2008

Mark Price Shot, Passed and "Split" His Way Into the NBA's Elite

Here are the 12 year regular season NBA career statistics for two point guards. See if you can guess who they are:

Point Guard #1:

15.2 ppg, 6.7 apg, .472 FG%, .402 3Pt FG%, .904 FT%

Point Guard #2:

14.3 ppg, 7.9 apg, .485 FG%, .431 3Pt FG%, .897 FT%

If you are surprised to find out that point guard #1 is Mark Price and point guard #2 is Steve Nash, then you definitely should check out my CavsNews.com article about the very underrated Price:

Mark Price Shot, Passed and "Split" His Way Into the NBA's Elite

Price developed the "split" move on the pick and roll play into a deadly weapon that many guards who followed him have copied. Johnny Bach, the de facto "defensive coordinator" for the Chicago Bulls during their first three-peat, says that the Mark Price-Brad Daugherty pick and roll play was "the best in the business" during that era.

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posted by David Friedman @ 5:22 PM


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At Monday, June 23, 2008 10:40:00 AM, Anonymous Ryne Nelson said...

I was always a huge fan of Mark Price...especially in NBA Live '95. =)

At Monday, June 23, 2008 11:32:00 AM, Blogger madnice said...

Im definitely not surprised and would prefer Price over Nash anyday. Thats why I dont think Nash is a Hall of Famer, unless you put in Price, Kevin Johnson, Tim Hardaway, Gus Williams, and Sidney Moncrief before him. But I know Nash will get probably get in before any of these guys strictly off of being AllNBA and MVP. It will be interesting to see how Nash performs without D'Antoni this year.

At Monday, June 23, 2008 3:52:00 PM, Blogger Don said...

Unrelated this post:

I hope you'll post about the U.S. Olympic team. I'd be interested in your reactions to the players selected, and most of all in your thoughts on how the international game differs from the NBA, and what that says about the types of players that should be selected.

Also, FWIW, while I haven't commented much at all this year, I read your blog regularly and always enjoy it -- I think it's the best analytic basketball blog out there.

At Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:23:00 AM, Blogger David Friedman said...


My cousins and I had the good fortune to see the Price-Daugherty combo in person in their early days back at Richfield Coliseum. That was a very fun team to watch and I was a big Price fan, too. It's kind of scary that I'm old enough to be talking about remembering the games of retired players at arenas that have since been torn down!

By the way, congrats on the success of Odenized!

At Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:28:00 AM, Blogger David Friedman said...


No eligible player who has won one MVP, let alone two, has been left out of the HoF, so Nash's ticket has already been punched.

The current era places a greater value on pgs than the previous one did, as can be seen in MVP voting not just with Nash but also with CP3 this year. I'm not saying that this is good or bad; it's just reality. Price never even sniffed an MVP in the years that he put up Nash-like numbers and the same is true of guys like Isiah, KJ, etc., as I documented in my PBN article about pgs and the MVP award.

Moncrief was a beast but I'll bet that most people under 30 don't even know who he is. He was a different kind of player than Price and Nash, obviously, but he was exceptional in his own right as a scorer/rebounder/defender/playmaker.
Like Andrew Toney, he was laid low by foot injuries.

At Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:31:00 AM, Blogger David Friedman said...


Thank you for the compliment. That is definitely the niche that I am trying to carve out--hardcore, in depth analysis for the serious fan. There is a lot written about the NBA but there is a shortage of serious commentary.

I just did a post about Team USA's 12 man roster.

Also, I will be doing in depth recaps of each of their games in the Olympics.

At Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:29:00 AM, Blogger madnice said...

O I know Nash is getting in. 1st ballot. The criteria is very dicey but I dont hold much stock in the Hall anyway.

Being the hiphop head that you are how did you enjoy Shaquilles rhyme killing Bryant?

At Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:30:00 AM, Blogger madnice said...

ryne nelson....price never missed in that game. of course those nba live games had the ill flaws like throwing the ball out of bounds and it not being out and players dribbling while kicking. A great game anyway.

At Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:44:00 PM, Blogger David Friedman said...


I just did a post about Shaq's rap, though I did not really focus on his "skills" (or lack thereof). Let's just say that I don't think that Shaq should quit his day job. I liked Blue Chips but most of his forays into music and entertainment have been forgettable.

At Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:01:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anymous reggie

mark price ws good so is steve nas i think nash was beter as a player becasue his peak seasons not by much though. shaq is a great basketball he is not a everyday rapper david so for a basketbal player he is pretty good he does it for fun if you compare to good rappers than he a joke. he as two gold and platinum albums thats good for a regular rapper im not promoteing him but he is prettty good be it he is a nba player

At Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:38:00 AM, Blogger David Friedman said...


My point is that I think that a lot of people just assume that Nash is much better than Price based on Nash winning two MVPs but that their numbers are very similar.

Shaq's sales have nothing to do with quality; people bought his tapes/CDs because of name recognition. Heck, I bought his first tape just because I figured it might be worth something as a novelty after he becomes a HoFer. I don't think I even listened to the whole thing.

At Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:02:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anymous reggie

price was a 4 time all star 4 all nba nash 6 time all star 6 all nba 2 mvp' yea nash was better but looking at price numbers they simlar defintely as far as nash.is concerned.

At Tuesday, April 05, 2011 12:09:00 PM, Anonymous #1 Price fan said...

If Price wasn't plagued by injuries in the mid 90's, he would've had more opportunities to contest in the all-star games and shootout. Nash only surpassed Price because he played longer with less struggle.


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