ABA Numbers Should Also Count
A slightly different version of this article was originally published in the May 2001 issue of Basketball Digest.Julius "Dr. J" Erving. Rick Barry. George "the Iceman" Gervin. David Thompson. Artis Gilmore. That looks like a formidable starting five, but there is one way to contain them. Each of these players spent time in the ABA--and the NBA has put the ultimate defensive clamps on them by acting like those seasons do not exist.
The Official NBA Guide has hundreds of pages of history and statistics. Each of the five players from the above "Dream Team" is listed among the Guide's career scoring leaders. But take a look at what appears next to Julius Erving's name: 11 years (1977-87), 18,364 points in 836 games (22.0 ppg). Question: How do you stop a guy who averages 28.7 ppg? Answer: Act as though he never did. Erving's career began in 1972, not 1977. In his first five years he scored 11,662 points in 407 games (28.7 ppg), but the NBA pretends that those numbers do not matter. The same holds true for Barry, Gervin, and the rest.
To find Dr. J's first five seasons and the statistics of other ABA greats in the Guide, you have to search for a list that is awkwardly titled "Combined NBA/ABA, Career Scoring."
Unfortunately, the "combined" numbers are not considered "official" by the NBA and are almost always ignored in discussions of basketball history. Karl Malone's climb up the career scoring list a few years ago was well documented. When he passed Michael Jordan and topped the late Wilt Chamberlain, those accomplishments were justifiably celebrated in the media. What wasn't mentioned is that Erving and Moses Malone should appear just below Chamberlain on the career scoring list (Moses' first two pro seasons disappear down the same memory hole as Erving's first five years, so Karl "officially" passed Moses during the 1997-98 season).
It's even worse when you examine the media guides of the four former ABA teams, the New Jersey (then New York) Nets, Indiana Pacers, Denver Nuggets, and San Antonio Spurs. These teams have every right to be proud of their ABA heritage and to even overstate the importance of their ABA years but instead they act as if franchise records set during the ABA years hardly exist.
This shortchanges players such as Erving and Gilmore by wiping out the first five seasons of their careers. Erving won two championships, three MVPs (sharing one with George McGinnis), two Playoff MVPs and three scoring titles in the ABA, while Gilmore notched one championship, one Playoff MVP and four rebounding titles.
No player's resume would emerge unscathed from such drastic revisions. Take away Michael Jordan's first five years and you erase one MVP, his two highest scoring seasons, his only Defensive Player of the Year award, two scoring titles, one steals title and his playoff single game scoring record of 63 points. Larry Bird would lose two of his three championships, one MVP, one NBA Finals MVP and his best single season totals in rebounds and steals. Magic Johnson would forfeit two of his five championships, two NBA Finals MVPs, two steals titles, one assists title and his single season bests in rebounding and steals.
Pacers Roger Brown and Mel Daniels are two Hall of Fame-caliber players whose great careers are largely ignored in no small part because their statistics are unrecognized. Brown was a four-time ABA All-Star who won three ABA championships with Indiana. More than one observer has said that Brown was Jordan's true precursor. In the 1970 ABA Finals, Brown averaged 32.7 ppg, scoring 53, 39 and 45 in the final three games. In the 1972 ABA Finals, Brown led the Pacers to a series-clinching victory in game six by outscoring future Hall of Famer Rick Barry 32-23. Daniels played center on those three championship teams, winning two regular season MVP awards. His 1608 career playoff rebounds place him 14th in pro basketball history.
It doesn't have to be this way. In the NFL Record and Fact Book (2008 edition), Len Dawson, George Blanda and others are listed as statistical leaders even though they spent parts of their careers in the AFL. The section on team histories includes the statistics of players such as Joe Namath, Don Maynard, and Paul Lowe among many others who set franchise records that date back to the AFL. NFL records show that Joe Namath is the first player to pass for 4,000 yards in a single season (4,007 in 1967); no one suggests that Dan Fouts' 4,082 yard performance in 1979 is more valid because it is the first such effort that occurred after the NFL and AFL merged.
The 76ers feted Larry Brown several years ago when he reached the 1000 victory milestone as a pro coach, which served as a de facto recognition of his combined ABA-NBA win totals. Was that a sign that things are changing for the better? Perhaps, but it also underscored the nature of the problem. During a TNT broadcast shortly after the ceremony honoring Coach Brown, commentator (and ABA old-schooler) Pete Vecsey quipped that if Brown's ABA wins were being recognized, Dr. J's ABA points should be acknowledged. Vecsey did not pursue the issue further, but as long as ABA statistics are not "official," media guides and other publications will continue to ignore them or mention them only as afterthoughts.
ABA numbers should be made "official" by the NBA. Then Larry Brown's wins, Dr. J's points and the rest of the ABA's glorious history would assume its proper place in the basketball record book.
The real pro basketball career statistical leaders appear in the accompanying charts. Playoff career leaders are also listed; inexplicably, even sources that publish "combined" NBA/ABA regular season statistics make no mention of ABA playoff statistics.
(2/27/09 Edit: I have replaced the original charts with versions that are up to date as of the start of the 2008-09 NBA season):
ABA-NBA Regular Season Career Scoring Leaders:
Points | Games | PPG | |||||
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar | 38,387 | 1560 | 24.6 | ||||
Karl Malone | 36,928 | 1476 | 25.0 | ||||
Michael Jordan | 32,292 | 1072 | 30.1 | ||||
Wilt Chamberlain | 31,419 | 1045 | 30.1 | ||||
Julius Erving | 30,026 | 1243 | 24.2 | ||||
Moses Malone | 29,580 | 1455 | 20.3 | ||||
| 27,482 | 1218 | 22.6 | ||||
Elvin Hayes | 27,313 | 1303 | 21.0 | ||||
Hakeem Olajuwon | 26,946 | 1238 | 21.8 | ||||
Oscar Robertson | 26,710 | 1040 | 25.7 |
ABA-NBA Playoff Career Scoring Leaders
Points | Games | PPG | ||||
Michael Jordan | 5987 | 179 | 33.4 | |||
| 5762 | 237 | 24.3 | |||
Shaquille O'Neal | 5121 | 203 | 25.2 | |||
Karl Malone | 4761 | 193 | 24.7 | |||
Julius Erving | 4580 | 189 | 24.2 | |||
Jerry West | 4457 | 153 | 29.1 | |||
Larry Bird | 3897 | 164 | 23.8 | |||
John Havlicek | 3776 | 172 | 22.0 | |||
Hakeem Olajuwon | 3755 | 145 | 25.9 | |||
Magic Johnson | 3701 | 190 | 19.5 |
Kobe Bryant | 3686 | 152 | 24.3 | ||
Scottie Pippen | 3642 | 208 | 17.5 | ||
Tim Duncan | 3625 | 155 | 23.4 | ||
Elgin Baylor | 3623 | 134 | 27.0 | ||
Wilt Chamberlain | 3607 | 160 | 22.5 |
ABA-NBA Regular Season Career Rebounding Leaders
Reb. | Games | RPG | |||||
Wilt Chamberlain | 23,924 | 1045 | 22.9 | ||||
Bill Russell | 21,620 | 983 | 22.5 | ||||
Moses Malone | 17,834 | 1455 | 12.3 | ||||
| 17,440 | 1560 | 11.2 | ||||
Artis Gilmore | 16,330 | 1329 | 12.3 | ||||
Elvin Hayes | 16,279 | 1303 | 12.5 | ||||
Karl Malone | 14,968 | 1476 | 10.1 | ||||
Robert Parish | 14,715 | 1611 | 9.1 | ||||
Nate Thurmond | 14,464 | 964 | 15.0 | ||||
Walt Bellamy | 14,241 | 1043 | 13.7 |
ABA-NBA Playoff Career Rebounding Leaders
Reb. | Games | RPG | ||||
Bill Russell | 4104 | 165 | 24.9 | |||
Wilt Chamberlain | 3913 | 160 | 24.5 | |||
| 2481 | 237 | 10.5 | |||
Shaquille O'Neal | 2447 | 203 | 12.1 | |||
Karl Malone | 2062 | 193 | 10.7 | |||
Tim Duncan | 1975 | 155 | 12.7 | |||
Wes Unseld | 1777 | 119 | 14.9 | |||
Robert Parish | 1765 | 184 | 9.6 | |||
Elgin Baylor | 1724 | 134 | 12.9 | |||
Larry Bird | 1683 | 164 | 10.3 | |||
Dennis Rodman | 1676 | 169 | 9.9 | |||
Hakeem Olajuwon | 1621 | 145 | 11.2 | |||
Julius Erving | 1611 | 189 | 8.5 | |||
Mel Daniels | 1608 | 109 | 14.8 | |||
Scottie Pippen | 1583 | 208 | 7.6 |
ABA-NBA Regular Season Career Assists Leaders
Assists | Games | APG | |||
John Stockton | 15,806 | 1504 | 10.5 | ||
Mark Jackson | 10,334 | 1296 | 8.0 | ||
Magic Johnson | 10,141 | 906 | 11.2 | ||
Oscar Robertson | 9,887 | 1040 | 9.5 | ||
Jason Kidd | 9,497 | 1026 | 9.3 | ||
Isiah Thomas | 9,061 | 979 | 9.3 | ||
Gary Payton | 8,966 | 1335 | 6.7 | ||
Rod Strickland | 7,987 | 1094 | 7.3 | ||
Maurice Cheeks | 7,392 | 1101 | 6.7 | ||
Lenny Wilkens | 7,211 | 1077 | 6.7 |
ABA-NBA Playoff Career Assists Leaders
Assists | Games | APG | |||
Magic Johnson | 2346 | 190 | 12.3 | ||
John Stockton | 1839 | 182 | 10.1 | ||
Larry Bird | 1062 | 164 | 6.5 | ||
Scottie Pippen | 1048 | 208 | 5.0 | ||
Michael Jordan | 1022 | 179 | 5.7 | ||
Dennis Johnson | 1006 | 180 | 5.6 | ||
Isiah Thomas | 987 | 111 | 8.9 | ||
Jerry West | 970 | 153 | 6.3 | ||
Jason Kidd | 961 | 105 | 9.2 | ||
Bob Cousy | 937 | 109 | 8.6 | ||
Kevin Johnson | 935 | 105 | 8.9 | ||
Maurice Cheeks | 922 | 133 | 6.9 | ||
Mark Jackson | 904 | 131 | 6.9 | ||
Clyde Drexler | 891 | 145 | 6.1 | ||
Steve Nash | 891 | 102 | 8.7 | ||
Julius Erving | 841 | 189 | 4.4 |
Labels: ABA, Artis Gilmore, Julius Erving, Mel Daniels, Roger Brown
posted by David Friedman @ 11:35 PM
5 Comments:
I HOPE THAT NBA finally recognize the ABA stats, So that the former ABA players can get there proper recognition
I agree that the NBA should recognize ABA stats. I've felt this way since the days of the ABA.
Along the same lines, the NBA should recognize NBL stats. Back in those days, while the BAA played in bigger/better markets, the NBL had the better players/teams.
One key example: Mikan has gotten robbed of two additional Championships this way (with the Chicago American Gears 1948, & Minneapolis Lakers 1949) plus his Rookie Of The Year Award in 1946.
Several future BAA/NBA stars played in the NBL first.
Yours attentively,
Pablo
Pablo:
I agree with you about the NBL and I discussed this issue with Bill Tosheff, who was a big advocate for his fellow retired players. There is a special Bill Tosheff section in the right hand sidebar of 20 Second Timeout's main page.
You would think that the NBA wouldn't want to lose and or offend its declining fan base by screwing over legends like Julius Erving by not counting half his stats. They're rewriting history and it's a lie!
Four years later (from my last post in this thread) ... 8 months ago, as a member of RealGM, I started a thread:
"My "Not Counting Segregation; The NBA's 3 Biggest Historical 'Crimes'"
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1604375
Here are highlights from my OP in that thread:
"My "Not Counting Segregation; The NBA's 3 Biggest Historical 'Crimes'": *
1) Not treating its earliest players justly by denying them sufficient retirement benefits (including after-death benefits to relatives). http://www.apbr.org/pension.html This would cost the NBA almost nothing; but be so righteous.
2) Treat the ABA like the NFL treats the AFL - with historical equality. N.B. The ABA started out much weaker than the NBA; but, for a number of reasons, including recruiting NBA-ineligible players; each year gained on the NBA. ...
3) Treat the NBL (12 seasons: 1938-1949) with all the great respect it truly deserves:"
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Here's one of my posts in that thread,
"Post#14 » by Pablo Novi » Mon Aug 7, 2017 11:42 am
INKtastic wrote:
for #2 - it was supposed to be a merger, the ABA history was supposed to count. They celebrated when Dr J scored his 30,000th point, now they act like it never happened.
TITLE OF PABLO NOVI'S POST: "The NBA-ABA "Merger" and the site: "20 second timeout"
It WAS supposed to be a merger; it was called a merger at the time and is still called a merger; i.e. "Since the ABA-NBA merger ...."; but the NBA has NOT treated it like a merger; more like a rape.
btw, this guy, David Friedman, aka "20 second timeout" has written a ton of excellent stuff on the ABA, its teams, its top players (like Dr J, etc); and more. http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.mx/
Friedman does a lot of great NBA-ABA analysis. If you go to his site, tell him "I sent you". lol"
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Despite the fact that all but one of the following posts were VERY positive; the thread was closed about 28 hours after I opened it, here's the post that closed it:
"Post#18 » by magnumt » Mon Aug 7, 2017 3:44 pm
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1578014
Socioeconomic and race related topics are NOT allowed on the GB anymore.
Thanks!
--Mags :beer:"
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BUT, "my" thread was neither "socioeconomic-related" nor "race-related"; heck, I had specifically spelled out in the OP that I was NOT addressing the race-related NBA injustices (exactly to stay within the letter of the law of RealGM policies.
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I (and probably a good percentage of all who support this "ABA - NBL - NBA Equality" position) am not getting any younger; I'm 68; and been a rabid fan since Wilt played for the Harlem Globetrotters, who I say LIVE a number of times during the 1958-59 season. I "followed" Wilt into the NBA. My dad was a fanatic George Mikan fan - so I was weaned on such as the "Mikan Drill".
ISN'T THERE SOME WAY WE COULD BEGIN TO ORGANIZE A COORDINATED CAMPAIGN TO FIX THESE HISTORICAL WRONGS BY THE NBA?
Yours Sincerely,
Pablo
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